LONDON, ENGLAND – NOVEMBER 01: Bukayo Saka of Arsenal is challenged by Lucas Paqueta of West Ham United during the Carabao Cup Fourth Round match between West Ham United and Arsenal at London Stadium on November 01, 2023 in London, England. (Photo by Alex Pantling/Getty Images)
Arteta’s decision to bring Saka and Martinelli on late
With Arsenal down 3-0 in the 66th minute, the game was as good as gone, so the general thought was to rest/leave the stars that were on the bench out of the game.
But in an odd situation, Arteta brought both Bukayo Saka and Gabriel Martinelli on in an attempt to salvage something from the game.
In truth, Arsenal never looked like beating West Ham, and Arteta might have missed a chance to give Saka and Martinelli a vital break. One could only imagine if either player picked up an injury.
pic.twitter.com/XZpsoHNGnW
<p>— Arsenal (@Arsenal) <a href=https://paininthearsenal.com/2023/11/02/west-ham-arsenal-talking-points-carabao-cup/3/"https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/1719828064782196790?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%22>November 1, 2023</a></p></blockquote>
<p><script async src=https://paininthearsenal.com/2023/11/02/west-ham-arsenal-talking-points-carabao-cup/3/"https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script></p></div>
<p>Just minutes after the restart, the Hammers doubled their lead through Mohammed Kudus. Then Bowen got in on the act, scoring West Ham’s third before Martin Odegaard netted a late consolation.</p>
<p>It was a poor showing from Arsenal, and the game provided plenty of talking points; here they are.</p>
<h2>Talking points from Arsenal’s 3-1 loss to West Ham</h2>
<h3>Aaron Ramsdale does little to convince Arteta of No. 1 status</h3>
<p>Ramsdale was given his first start in what felt like forever, and it was seen as a chance to stake his claim to be re-installed as Arsenal’s No. 1 over David Raya – but he didn’t cover himself in glory.</p>
<p>He looked uncomfortable under pressure from West Ham’s forwards, but his short passing was a bright spot, but that won’t influence Arteta’s thinking.</p>
<p>Didn’t do his chances of staying in the team any good. Advantage Raya.</p>
<p><em>Continued on next slide…</em></p>
<div class="next-slide slider"> <a class="next-slide-btn" style="background: #c01f2f" data-track="shortcode" data-track-action="next-slide-shortcode" href=https://paininthearsenal.com/2023/11/02/west-ham-arsenal-talking-points-carabao-cup/3/"#"> <span class="title">Next:</span> Talking Point #2 </a>
</div><!—pageview_candidate—><hr id="pagebreak"><div id="attachment_137326" class="wp-caption alignnone">
<img decoding="async" loading="lazy" class="wp-image-137326 size-full" src=https://paininthearsenal.com/2023/11/02/west-ham-arsenal-talking-points-carabao-cup/3/"https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/fetch/c_fill,g_auto,f_auto,h_1066,w_1600/https%3A%2F%2Fpaininthearsenal.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fgetty-images%2F2017%2F07%2F1757982393.jpeg" alt="" width="1600" height="1066" srcset="https://paininthearsenal.com/wp-content/uploads/getty-images/2017/07/1757982393.jpeg 1600w, https://paininthearsenal.com/wp-content/uploads/getty-images/2017/07/1757982393-768x512.jpeg 768w, https://paininthearsenal.com/wp-content/uploads/getty-images/2017/07/1757982393-1536x1023.jpeg 1536w" sizes="(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px"><p class="wp-caption-text">Arsenal’s German midfielder #29 Kai Havertz (C) vies with West Ham United’s Czech midfielder #28 Tomas Soucek (L) and West Ham United’s English striker #20 Jarrod Bowen (R) during the English League Cup fourth round football match between West Ham United and Arsenal at The London Stadium, in east London, on November 1, 2023. (Photo by HENRY NICHOLLS / AFP) / RESTRICTED TO EDITORIAL USE. No use with unauthorized audio, video, data, fixture lists, club/league logos or ‘live’ services. Online in-match use limited to 120 images. An additional 40 images may be used in extra time. No video emulation. Social media in-match use limited to 120 images. An additional 40 images may be used in extra time. No use in betting publications, games or single club/league/player publications. / (Photo by HENRY NICHOLLS/AFP via Getty Images)</p>
</div>
<h2>Kai Havertz again fails to impress</h2>
<p>The German started brightly but faded just as fast as the game went on. His touch let him down whenever he got into a promising position.</p>
<p>Coming in for such a big fee, the German has to start producing, and nights like this don’t do him any favors in the eyes of the Gunners’ faithful.</p>
<p>Football is a results business, and so far, Havertz hasn’t been producing good enough results.</p>
<p><em>Continued on next slide…</em></p>
<div class="next-slide slider"> <a class="next-slide-btn" style="background: #c01f2f" data-track="shortcode" data-track-action="next-slide-shortcode" href=https://paininthearsenal.com/2023/11/02/west-ham-arsenal-talking-points-carabao-cup/3/"#"> <span class="title">Next:</span> Talking Point #3 </a>
</div><!—pageview_candidate—><hr id="pagebreak"><div id="attachment_137325" class="wp-caption aligncenter">
<img decoding="async" loading="lazy" class="wp-image-137325 size-full" src=https://paininthearsenal.com/2023/11/02/west-ham-arsenal-talking-points-carabao-cup/3/"https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/fetch/c_fill,g_auto,f_auto,h_1878,w_2560/https%3A%2F%2Fpaininthearsenal.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fgetty-images%2F2017%2F07%2F1769370518-scaled.jpeg" alt="" width="2560" height="1878" srcset="https://paininthearsenal.com/wp-content/uploads/getty-images/2017/07/1769370518-scaled.jpeg 2560w, https://paininthearsenal.com/wp-content/uploads/getty-images/2017/07/1769370518-768x564.jpeg 768w, https://paininthearsenal.com/wp-content/uploads/getty-images/2017/07/1769370518-1536x1127.jpeg 1536w, https://paininthearsenal.com/wp-content/uploads/getty-images/2017/07/1769370518-2048x1503.jpeg 2048w" sizes="(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px"><div class="fs-center-img">
<p class="wp-caption-text" style="width:2560px;">LONDON, ENGLAND – NOVEMBER 01: Bukayo Saka of Arsenal is challenged by Lucas Paqueta of West Ham United during the Carabao Cup Fourth Round match between West Ham United and Arsenal at London Stadium on November 01, 2023 in London, England. (Photo by Alex Pantling/Getty Images)</p>
</div>
</div>
<h2>Arteta’s decision to bring Saka and Martinelli on late</h2>
<p>With Arsenal down 3-0 in the 66th minute, the game was as good as gone, so the general thought was to rest/leave the stars that were on the bench out of the game.</p>
<p>But in an odd situation, Arteta brought both Bukayo Saka and Gabriel Martinelli on in an attempt to salvage something from the game.</p>
<div class="embed ">
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-width="500" data-dnt="true">
<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Saka and Martinelli coming on.</p>
<p>Is it really worth it?</p>
<p>— Charles Watts (@charles_watts) <a href=https://paininthearsenal.com/2023/11/02/west-ham-arsenal-talking-points-carabao-cup/3/"https://twitter.com/charles_watts/status/1719819501322051714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%22>November 1, 2023</a></p></blockquote>
<p><script async src=https://paininthearsenal.com/2023/11/02/west-ham-arsenal-talking-points-carabao-cup/3/"https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script></p></div>
<p>In truth, Arsenal never looked like beating West Ham, and Arteta might have missed a chance to give Saka and Martinelli a vital break. One could only imagine if either player picked up an injury.</p><!—pageview_candidate—>">
